{"id":6461,"date":"2007-07-27T19:01:00","date_gmt":"2007-07-27T19:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/?p=6461"},"modified":"2023-06-26T19:09:23","modified_gmt":"2023-06-26T19:09:23","slug":"bira-mi-ekmek-mi-tartismasina-iliskin-aldigim-mektuplar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/?p=6461","title":{"rendered":"“Bira m\u0131, Ekmek mi Tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131”na \u0130li\u015fkin Ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m Mektuplar"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Ge\u00e7en hafta Ergani Haber’de “Braidwood’un Bira m\u0131, Ekmek mi Tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131<\/em><\/strong>” ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 yaz\u0131m yay\u0131nland\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yaz\u0131 daha \u00f6nce bir Web sitesinde yay\u0131nlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Web sitesindeki yay\u0131ndan sonra elektronik postayla yaz\u0131ya ili\u015fkin birka\u00e7 mektup ald\u0131m. Bu mektuplardan be\u015f tanesini yorumsuz bilgilerinize sunmak istiyorum. Ayr\u0131ca, ele\u015ftiriye her zaman a\u00e7\u0131k oldu\u011fumu, olumlu veya olumsuz sizlerden gelecek ele\u015ftiri, \u00f6neri ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceleri en iyi \u015fekilde de\u011ferlendirece\u011fimi de bilmenizi istiyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m mektuplardan birka\u00e7\u0131:<\/strong><\/em>
1. Mektup:<\/strong><\/em>
Sevgili M\u00fcsl\u00fcm Bey,
Yollad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z not ve ekteki yaz\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr eder, ayn\u0131 zamanda, bir\u00e7ok meslekta\u015f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n ula\u015famad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00fcst d\u00fczeye vard\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in de ayr\u0131ca kutlar\u0131m. Bence \u00e7ok g\u00fczel toplam\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131z.
Ben size bir ka\u00e7 yay\u0131n ad\u0131 daha vereyim, ileride i\u015finize yarayabilir:
1)Katz, S. H. ve F. Maytag (1991), “Brewing an Ancient Beer”, Archaeology 44:24-33.
2)Jennings, J. Et.al. (2005), “Drinking Beer in a Blissful Mood”: Alcohol Production, Operational Chains,and Feasting in the Ancient World, Current Anthropology 46: 275-303.
3)M\u00fcller-Karpe, V. (2005), “Bier und Bierproduktion in Anatolien zur Bronzezeit”. \u00dc. Yal\u00e7\u0131n, C. Pulak ve R. Slotta (edit\u00f6rler), Das Schiff Uluburun Welthandel vor 3000 Jahren, Deutschen Bergbau-Museum, Bochum: 171-184. (Bu kitab\u0131n T\u00fcrk\u00e7esi 2006 y\u0131l\u0131nda Ege yay\u0131nlar\u0131ndan \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Son y\u0131llarda arkeometride geli\u015fen yeni biyolojik inceleme y\u00f6ntemleri, daha \u00f6nceden bilemedi\u011fimiz bir\u00e7ok konuda yeni a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131mlar getirmekte. Bunlar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda “stable izotop” ve “tortu analizi” y\u00f6ntemleri geliyor. Bu y\u00f6ntemler ge\u00e7en y\u0131ldan itibaren bira ve fermante i\u00e7kiler i\u00e7in de denenmeye ba\u015fland\u0131. Tam sonu\u00e7lar hen\u00fcz yok ancak umut var.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tekrar kutlar\u0131m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sevgi ve selamlarla\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

18 Nisan 2007
Prof. Dr. Mehmet \u00d6zdo\u011fan<\/p>\n\n\n\n

2. Mektup:<\/strong><\/em>
Sevgili M\u00fcsl\u00fcm,
S\u00fcmer biras\u0131, bizim kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z biradan \u00e7ok farkl\u0131yd\u0131. Bulama\u00e7 bi\u00e7imindeki bira, s\u0131v\u0131 hamur g\u00f6revi yap\u0131yordu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nerede yan\u0131l\u0131yorsun?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0130nsanlar do\u011fadaki nesne ve hareketleri s\u00f6zc\u00fcklerle tan\u0131mlar. Ne yaz\u0131k ki, s\u00f6zc\u00fcklerin geli\u015fmesi, do\u011fadaki ak\u0131\u015fa yeti\u015femez. Bu durumda, s\u00f6zc\u00fckler, nesne ve hareketleri eksik ve kusurlu tan\u0131mlar. \u00d6rne\u011fin, g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde, “Bira” s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ile tan\u0131mlanan nesne, 2000 y\u0131l \u00f6nce, “Bira” s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ile tan\u0131mlanan nesneden olduk\u00e7a farkl\u0131d\u0131r. S\u00fcredurum Yasas\u0131 gere\u011fi, insanlar, g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczdeki s\u00f6zc\u00fckleri ge\u00e7mi\u015fe ta\u015f\u0131rlar. B\u00f6ylece, baz\u0131 g\u00fcncel kavramlar, p\u00fcr\u00fczs\u00fcz s\u0131v\u0131lar, renkli nesneler, hatta baz\u0131 20.y\u00fczy\u0131l alet-edevatlar\u0131 2000 y\u0131l \u00f6ncesine ta\u015f\u0131n\u0131r. Bunu ilerde daha geni\u015f yazar\u0131m. \u015eimdi yazacak durumda de\u011filim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selamlar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

18 Nisan 2007
Elk. Y\u00fck M\u00fch. Nurettin De\u011firmenci<\/p>\n\n\n\n

3. Mektup:<\/em><\/strong>
Merhaba Abicim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nas\u0131ls\u0131n\u0131z? Umar\u0131m iyisinizdir ve umar\u0131m her \u015fey yolundad\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Biran\u0131n tarih\u00e7esini anlatan yaz\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 ilgin\u00e7 buldum. Konu ile ilgili bilgilendirmeleri de\u011ferli buldum. Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Biz de arkada\u015flarla ge\u00e7en cumartesi g\u00fcn\u00fc Mardin, Nusaybin, Midyat ve Hasankeyf gezisi d\u00fczenledik. \u00c7ok g\u00fczel ge\u00e7ti. S\u00fcryani ve kiliselerin tarihi ile ilgili ilgin\u00e7 veriler edindik. Dini g\u00f6revlilerle s\u00f6yle\u015filer yapt\u0131k. Foto\u011fraflar \u00e7ektik. Ke\u015fke sen de bizimle olsayd\u0131n. Neyse, k\u0131smet olursa seninle de bir g\u00fcn gezeriz oralar\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selam, sevgi ve sayg\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131 g\u00f6nderiyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

18 Nisan 2007
Resul \u00dcst\u00fcn<\/p>\n\n\n\n

4. Mektup:<\/em><\/strong>
Merhaba. Bira m\u0131, ekmek mi yaz\u0131n\u0131 okudum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tarihe, b\u00f6lgemizdeki ka\u00e7 bin sene \u00f6nce ya\u015fayan topluluklara kafay\u0131 iyice takm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n; \u00e7ok sevindirici, fakat yaz\u0131nda \u00c7ay\u00f6n\u00fc gibi yapay, uydurma bir ismi hala kullanman, tarihin orijinli isimleriyle \u00e7eli\u015fmiyor mu? 50 y\u0131ld\u0131r zorlamayla tak\u0131lan bu isim, Kemalistlerin tarihsel isimleri de\u011fi\u015ftirmeleri politikas\u0131na tarih\u00e7ilerin ra\u011fbet etmemesi gerekir diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Senden ricam: \u00c7ay\u00f6n\u00fc may\u00f6n\u00fc ismi yerine S\u00fcmerlerden kalan ismi, ya da Hilar’\u0131 veya Qote Ber \u00c7em’i kullan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

B\u00f6ylesi daha iyi olmaz m\u0131? Selamlar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

18 Nisan 2007
Kamil S\u00fcmb\u00fcl<\/p>\n\n\n\n

5. Mektup:<\/strong><\/em>
Say\u0131n M\u00fcsl\u00fcm Hoca,
Merhaba. Birayla ilgili yaz\u0131n\u0131 okudum. \u0130lgin\u00e7ti. Biran\u0131n tarih\u00e7esi hakk\u0131nda pek fazla bilgim yok. Ama, Doz Yay\u0131nlar\u0131’nca bas\u0131lan Harward \u00dcniversitesi \u00f6\u011fretim g\u00f6revlisi Prof. Dr. Mehrdad R. Izady’\u0131n Bir El Kitab\u0131 K\u00dcRTLER kitab\u0131nda \u015funlar yaz\u0131lmakta:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“\u0130ran’daki G\u00fcney K\u00fcrdistan’da bulunan antik Godin t\u00fcmse\u011finde kaz\u0131 yapan arkeologlar antik bir zamanda \u00fcz\u00fcm \u015farab\u0131 ve arpa mayas\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131 hakk\u0131nda en eski fiziksel kan\u0131tlar\u0131 buldu. \u00dcz\u00fcm\u00fcn ve arpan\u0131n anavatan\u0131n\u0131n Za\u011fros-Toros da\u011flar\u0131 oldu\u011fu, bunlar\u0131n ilk kez oralarda \u0131slah edildikleri; kald\u0131 ki, \u00fcz\u00fcm\u00fcn Irak’taki G\u00fcney Mezopotamya ovalar\u0131n\u0131n batakl\u0131k ve tuzlu topraklar\u0131nda hi\u00e7bir \u015fekilde yeti\u015femeyece\u011fi gibi olgular\u0131 g\u00f6z ard\u0131 eden s\u00f6zkonusu kaz\u0131daki arkeologlar, K\u00fcrt da\u011flar\u0131n\u0131n yerli k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc es ge\u00e7erek bu her iki \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn ke\u015ffini G\u00fcney Irak’taki S\u00fcmerlere atfettiler!” (S. 58)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bu notu bilginiz olsun diye g\u00f6nderiyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dost\u00e7a selam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

25 Nisan 2007
M\u0131stefa<\/p>\n\n\n\n

27 Temmuz 2007
Ergani Haber Gazetesi<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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bira m\u0131<\/a>, <\/span>braidwood<\/a>, <\/span>ekmek mi<\/a>, <\/span>kamil s\u00fcmb\u00fcl<\/a>, <\/span>mektup<\/a>, <\/span>m\u0131stefa<\/a>, <\/span>nurettin de\u011firmenci<\/a>, <\/span>prof. dr. mehmet \u00f6zdo\u011fan<\/a>, <\/span>resul \u00fcst\u00fcn<\/a>, <\/span>tart\u0131\u015fma<\/a><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Ge\u00e7en hafta Ergani Haber’de “Braidwood’un Bira m\u0131, Ekmek mi Tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131” ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 yaz\u0131m yay\u0131nland\u0131. Yaz\u0131 daha \u00f6nce bir Web sitesinde yay\u0131nlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Web sitesindeki yay\u0131ndan sonra elektronik postayla yaz\u0131ya ili\u015fkin birka\u00e7 mektup ald\u0131m. Bu mektuplardan be\u015f tanesini yorumsuz bilgilerinize sunmak istiyorum. Ayr\u0131ca, ele\u015ftiriye her zaman a\u00e7\u0131k oldu\u011fumu, olumlu veya olumsuz sizlerden gelecek ele\u015ftiri, \u00f6neri ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceleri en iyi \u015fekilde de\u011ferlendirece\u011fimi de bilmenizi istiyorum. Ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m mektuplardan birka\u00e7\u0131:1. Mektup:Sevgili M\u00fcsl\u00fcm Bey,Yollad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z not ve ekteki yaz\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr eder, ayn\u0131 zamanda, bir\u00e7ok meslekta\u015f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n ula\u015famad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00fcst d\u00fczeye vard\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in de ayr\u0131ca kutlar\u0131m. Bence \u00e7ok g\u00fczel toplam\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131z.Ben size bir ka\u00e7 yay\u0131n ad\u0131 daha vereyim, ileride i\u015finize yarayabilir:1)Katz,<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1197,1064],"tags":[4563,4565,4562,454,3427,4564,298,3535,1459,252],"class_list":["post-6461","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-kultur","category-tarih","tag-bira-mi","tag-braidwood","tag-ekmek-mi","tag-kamil-sumbul","tag-mektup","tag-mistefa","tag-nurettin-degirmenci","tag-prof-dr-mehmet-ozdogan-2","tag-resul-ustun","tag-tartisma"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6461","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6461"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6461\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6462,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6461\/revisions\/6462"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6461"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6461"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6461"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}