{"id":5312,"date":"2012-12-05T17:01:00","date_gmt":"2012-12-05T17:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/?p=5312"},"modified":"2023-06-01T17:32:48","modified_gmt":"2023-06-01T17:32:48","slug":"cermik-kitabina-dair-bazi-notlar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/?p=5312","title":{"rendered":"\u00c7ermik Kitab\u0131na Dair Baz\u0131 Notlar"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Saffet Alt\u0131nda\u011f<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201c\u00d6yle bir yerdeyim ki
Ne karanfil ne kurba\u011fa
Bir yan\u0131m mavi yosun
Dalgalan\u0131r sularda<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dostum dostum
G\u00fczel dostum<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bu ne beter \u00e7izgidir bu
Bu ne \u00e7\u0131ld\u0131rtan denge
Yaprak d\u00f6ker bir yan\u0131m\u0131z
Bir yan\u0131m\u0131z bahar bah\u00e7e\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selam Abi. Kitab\u0131n okuma s\u00fcresi boyunca s\u00f6zleri Hasan H\u00fcseyin Korkmazgil\u2019e, bestesi Ahmet Kaya\u2019ya ait yukar\u0131daki \u015fark\u0131y\u0131 an\u0131msatt\u0131. Kitab\u0131n\u0131n ad\u0131n\u0131 \u201cyaz\u0131l\u0131 kaynaklar\u201d diye ba\u015flamas\u0131 y\u00fcz\u00fcnden \u00e7ok ele\u015ftirilecek \u015fey b\u0131rakm\u0131yor. Konu b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc sa\u011flama ve kurgu gayet g\u00fczel ancak Edit\u00f6r bence s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131 ge\u00e7emedi. Neden dersen; Yazar\u0131n yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 kelime hatalar\u0131 duruyorsa bu onun de\u011fil edit\u00f6r\u00fcn su\u00e7udur ve hayli var. Bir yerde teknik \u00f6zelli\u011fe (Sadece \u00c7ERM\u0130K\u2019e ait) sahip kitab\u0131nda gerek sunu gerekse di\u011fer k\u0131s\u0131mlarda bana dokunan hususlar\u0131 ise a\u015fa\u011f\u0131da belirttim;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nas\u0131l bir yerde \u201ckendi halk\u0131n\u0131 yiyenlerin topra\u011f\u0131\u201d do\u011fmu\u015fuz sorusu beynimi t\u0131rmal\u0131yor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yahudi Kaynaklar\u0131nda \u00c7ermik b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde \u201c Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019\u0131n M\u00fcsl\u00fcman halk\u0131 i\u00e7inde bulundu\u011fu cehalet ve taassup y\u00fcz\u00fcnden Yahudileri hor g\u00f6rmektedir. Bu nedenle onlara hakaret etmekte ve bazen de tacizde bulunmaktan a\u015fa\u011f\u0131 kalmamaktad\u0131r. Bu zavall\u0131 Yahudiler resmi makamlar nezdinde \u015fik\u00e2yette bulunduklar\u0131nda \u015fik\u00e2yetleri sonu\u00e7suz kalmakta hatta bazen \u015fik\u00e2yette bulunduklar\u0131 \u015fah\u0131slar resmi makamlar\u0131n nezdinde onlar\u0131 su\u00e7lu duruma sokmay\u0131 ba\u015farmaktad\u0131r. Bunlar\u0131n maruz kald\u0131klar\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar i\u00e7in \u015fu olay bir fikir verebilir. \u00c7ermik\u2019teki sinagogun tamire ihtiyac\u0131 oldu\u011fundan cemaat bu tamiri yapt\u0131. Tamirat i\u00e7in \u00f6nceden izin al\u0131nmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bahane eden zaptiyeler aniden gelip sinagogu kapat\u0131p anahtarlar\u0131 beraberinde g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fcler.\u201d<\/em> denmektedir. Yahudiler, Ermeniler, S\u00fcryaniler ve di\u011ferleri\u2026 Orada kalmad\u0131klar\u0131 i\u00e7in mi onlar\u0131, oral\u0131 kabul etmiyoruz, yoksa bizim gibi yerli (K\u00fcrt, T\u00fcrk, S\u00fcnni) olmad\u0131klar\u0131 i\u00e7in mi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nas\u0131l oldu da binlerce y\u0131ld\u0131r bu topraklarda ya\u015fayan K\u00fcrtler ancak 16. Y\u00fczy\u0131lda kendi tarihlerini yazmaya ba\u015flad\u0131lar?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yine Yahudi Kaynaklar\u0131nda \u00c7ermik b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde \u201cEkim1873-Ba\u011fdat Alyans okul M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc M\u00f6sy\u00f6 Garat Diyarbak\u0131r Yahudi halk\u0131n\u0131n K\u00fcrtlerden g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc eziyetleri ve yerel makamlar\u0131n isyan ettirici haks\u0131zl\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 Paris merkez heyetine bildirmektedir.\u201d <\/em>Bilgi ve belgelerin yok edildi\u011fi mek\u00e2n olmas\u0131 sadece egemen g\u00fc\u00e7lerin emelleriyle mi anlat\u0131l\u0131r, yoksa bilgi ve belgenin k\u0131ymetini de\u011ferini bilmeme de var m\u0131yd\u0131 yerli halk hesab\u0131na yaz\u0131labilecek?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mehrdad R. Izady\u2019nin kitab\u0131ndan al\u0131nt\u0131lar yapm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n. \u201c\u2026Anadolu\u2019daki t\u00fcm K\u00fcrt b\u00f6lgeleri \u015fu veya bu \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde korkun\u00e7 talan ve g\u00f6\u00e7 ettirme olaylar\u0131na sahne oluyordu. \u2026\u00c7ald\u0131ran Sava\u015f\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan Bat\u0131 K\u00fcrdistan\u2019\u0131n Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131na kat\u0131lmas\u0131ndan hemen sonra, Sultan I.Selim (ac\u0131mas\u0131z) birka\u00e7 kalabal\u0131k K\u00fcrt a\u015firetini g\u00f6\u00e7 ettirerek, \u0130\u00e7 Anadolu\u2019ya, Modern Ankara\u2019n\u0131n g\u00fcneyine s\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Bu olaylar b\u00f6lgenin tar\u0131ma dayal\u0131 ekonomisini \u00e7\u00f6kertti ve etrafa yay\u0131larak topraktan yoksun bir ya\u015fam s\u00fcrd\u00fcren tek grup olarak Kurmanc\u0131lar geriye kald\u0131.\u201d<\/em> Acaba K\u00fcrtler, T\u00fcrkmen, Azeri ve Ermeniler Mezopotamya\u2019da de\u011fil de ba\u015fka bir co\u011frafyada olsalard\u0131 bunca eziyeti g\u00f6r\u00fcrler miydi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

B\u00fct\u00fcn y\u00f6neticiler saray soytar\u0131lar\u0131na benzeyen \u0130dris-i Bidlisi gibi olmay\u0131 tercih ettikleri i\u00e7in mi K\u00fcrtler kendi tarihlerini bile yazamad\u0131lar?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0130smail Be\u015fikci\u2019nin kitab\u0131ndan da al\u0131nt\u0131lar yapm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n. \u0130smail Be\u015fikci, Devletleraras\u0131 S\u00f6m\u00fcrge K\u00fcrdistan adl\u0131 kitab\u0131nda: \u201cK\u00fcrdistan\u2019\u0131n Bat\u0131\u2019dan Do\u011fu\u2019ya, Do\u011fu\u2019dan Bat\u0131\u2019ya yap\u0131lan istilalarda \u00f6nemli ge\u00e7i\u015f yollar\u0131 \u00fczerinde bulunmas\u0131, derlenip toparlanma ve merkezile\u015fme e\u011filimlerini de yok ediyordu. 7.y\u00fczy\u0131lda Arap istilas\u0131, 11.y\u00fczy\u0131lda O\u011fuz T\u00fcrklerinin istilas\u0131, 13. Y\u00fczy\u0131lda Mo\u011fol istilas\u0131, 15.y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n ba\u015flar\u0131nda Timur istilas\u0131, K\u00fcrdistan\u2019daki ekonomik, toplumsal ve siyasal yap\u0131lar\u0131 \u00e7ok etkiliyordu\u2026.. Osmanl\u0131-\u0130ran sava\u015flar\u0131nda her iki tarafta K\u00fcrtlerden dev\u015firdi\u011fi ordularla sava\u015fmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar K\u00fcrt toplumunun yap\u0131s\u0131nda ku\u015fkusuz \u00f6nemli sonu\u00e7lar ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yor.\u201d<\/em> (S.22) Bu sonu\u00e7lar ne?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ermeni Raporlar\u0131nda \u00c7ermik b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde \u201cDa\u011flar aras\u0131nda yer alan kasaban\u0131n binalar\u0131 \u00e7ok zevksiz in\u015fa edilmi\u015f, halk\u0131 da binalar\u0131na benziyor. N\u00fcfus Ermeni, T\u00fcrk ve K\u00fcrtlerden olu\u015fuyor. Bunlar\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda Yahudilerde var.\u201d<\/em> denmektedir. Co\u011frafya etkisiyle mi halklar zevksiz oluyor?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vastan (Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc Geva\u015f) Livas\u0131, Hizan Livas\u0131, M\u00fck\u00fcs (Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc Bah\u00e7esaray) Livas\u0131 Diyarbekir Eyaletine ba\u011fl\u0131ym\u0131\u015f. Van de\u011fil de Diyarbekir Eyaletine ba\u011fl\u0131 olmas\u0131 co\u011frafi durumdan m\u0131 yoksa bu b\u00f6lgedeki mirlerin birbiriyle akraba olmas\u0131ndan m\u0131?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cOsmanl\u0131 Devlet\u2019inde tahrir, topra\u011f\u0131n m\u00fclkiyet ve tasarruf hukukunu, reayan\u0131n (ahalinin) y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcl\u00fcklerini belirlemek, vergi t\u00fcr ve miktarlar\u0131n\u0131 saptamak i\u00e7in yap\u0131lan y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fc arazi ve n\u00fcfus yaz\u0131m i\u015fidir. Arazi ve y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fc yaz\u0131m sonu\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131n i\u015flendi\u011fi defterlere Tahrir Defterleri<\/em>, sadece y\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fc say\u0131m (tahrir-i n\u00fcfus) sonu\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131n i\u015flendi\u011fi defterlere ise Esame Defterleri<\/em> denilir.\u201d denmektedir. Her \u015fey bir yana i\u015f para toplamaya geldi mi akan sular duruyor?..<\/p>\n\n\n\n

G\u00f6z\u00fcne, eline ve beynine sa\u011fl\u0131k!..<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sayg\u0131lar\u0131mla.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

5 Aral\u0131k 2012
Saffet Alt\u0131nda\u011f
\u00c7evre M\u00fchendisi<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

<\/p>\n\n\n

Ahmet Kaya<\/a>, <\/span>Azeri<\/a>, <\/span>\u00c7ermik Kitab\u0131<\/a>, <\/span>\u00c7evre M\u00fchendisi<\/a>, <\/span>Devletleraras\u0131 S\u00f6m\u00fcrge K\u00fcrdistan<\/a>, <\/span>ermeniler<\/a>, <\/span>hasan h\u00fcseyin korkmazgil<\/a>, <\/span>\u0130dris-i Bidlisi<\/a>, <\/span>ismail be\u015fikci<\/a>, <\/span>k\u00fcrtler<\/a>, <\/span>mehrdad r. izady<\/a>, <\/span>Saffet Alt\u0131nda\u011f<\/a>, <\/span>s\u00fcryaniler<\/a>, <\/span>T\u00fcrkmen<\/a>, <\/span>Yahudi Kaynaklar\u0131nda \u00c7ermik<\/a>, <\/span>Yahudiler<\/a><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Saffet Alt\u0131nda\u011f \u201c\u00d6yle bir yerdeyim kiNe karanfil ne kurba\u011faBir yan\u0131m mavi yosunDalgalan\u0131r sularda Dostum dostumG\u00fczel dostum Bu ne beter \u00e7izgidir buBu ne \u00e7\u0131ld\u0131rtan dengeYaprak d\u00f6ker bir yan\u0131m\u0131zBir yan\u0131m\u0131z bahar bah\u00e7e\u2026\u201d Selam Abi. Kitab\u0131n okuma s\u00fcresi boyunca s\u00f6zleri Hasan H\u00fcseyin Korkmazgil\u2019e, bestesi Ahmet Kaya\u2019ya ait yukar\u0131daki \u015fark\u0131y\u0131 an\u0131msatt\u0131. Kitab\u0131n\u0131n ad\u0131n\u0131 \u201cyaz\u0131l\u0131 kaynaklar\u201d diye ba\u015flamas\u0131 y\u00fcz\u00fcnden \u00e7ok ele\u015ftirilecek \u015fey b\u0131rakm\u0131yor. Konu b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc sa\u011flama ve kurgu gayet g\u00fczel ancak Edit\u00f6r bence s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131 ge\u00e7emedi. Neden dersen; Yazar\u0131n yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 kelime hatalar\u0131 duruyorsa bu onun de\u011fil edit\u00f6r\u00fcn su\u00e7udur ve hayli var. Bir yerde teknik \u00f6zelli\u011fe (Sadece \u00c7ERM\u0130K\u2019e ait) sahip kitab\u0131nda gerek sunu gerekse di\u011fer k\u0131s\u0131mlarda bana<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1321],"tags":[3057,3062,3055,3056,3064,393,656,3061,1291,162,889,3058,1427,3063,3059,3060],"class_list":["post-5312","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-basinda","tag-ahmet-kaya","tag-azeri","tag-cermik-kitabi","tag-cevre-muhendisi","tag-devletlerarasi-somurge-kurdistan","tag-ermeniler","tag-hasan-huseyin-korkmazgil","tag-idris-i-bidlisi","tag-ismail-besikci-2","tag-kurtler","tag-mehrdad-r-izady","tag-saffet-altindag","tag-suryaniler","tag-turkmen","tag-yahudi-kaynaklarinda-cermik","tag-yahudiler"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5312","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5312"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5312\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5317,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5312\/revisions\/5317"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5312"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5312"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.uzulmez.site\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5312"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}